11-year old Alex Aponte with a 31-lb king and a 21-lb king, both caught 8/15/14!
Rachel's first fish - a 15 in. flounder!
Chandler Rosenbaun with a 33 lb. King landed 7/28/14 (without the tail)!
Hallie M. with a 6 lb. Spanish caught 7/26/14!
Andrea Whitney with a 4 1/2 lb. black drum caught 7/19/14!
Johnnie King and a5 3/4 lb. black drum caught 7/19/14!
Greg Vasquez with a 20", 4 lb. flounder caught 7/19/14!
Bobby Joyce with a nice 3 lb., 9 oz. speckled trout!!
Colin Eimers with the 80+ lb. tarpon he caught & released on 7/16/14; this is Colin's 4th tarpon caught from the Jolly Roger Pier!
Tyler Rose with a 4 lb. Spanish caught 7/1!
Steve Partin with a nice 6 3/4 lb black drum!
Greg Vazquez with a 21 1/2 in. 4 lb. Trout and 19 in. 3lb. Puppy Drum caught 7/5!
Joe Bianco with the first Spanish of the season!
Ny Seng with a nice slot-sized puppy drum caught 11/18/13!
Tyrone Scales with a 2lb. 3 oz. Pompano caught 11/8/13!
Carol W. with a 22 in. drum caught 11/2/13!
B.T. with a 20 lb. King he caught 10/21/13!
Ed Joyner with a nice drum 9/28/13 (photo by Johnnie King)
Dean Phillips with a stack of nice Spanish caught yesterday!
Tim Arey with a 6-3/4 lb. speckled trout he caught 9/25/13 on finger mullet!
Pete Micah with a 4.75 lb Spanish!
Nice cooler full of spots and blues caught 9/15/13 by John Karakasis!
Colin Eimers with a 23 lb. King Mackerel caught 8/13/13!
Greg Vasquez with a 26 inch Puppy Drum caught 8/18/13!
Tess' shot "Fresh Catch".
Here's Joey Kellum with a 26 lb. king he caught 8/3/13.
Here's Colin Eimers with a 50 lb. tarpon he caught and released on July 4; this is Colin's third tarpon from the Jolly Roger!
Rusty Goodwin with a 19 lb Cobia he caught 6/20/13 using a bucktail jig with 12 lb test line!
Tyler (on the right) caught this 42 lb. Cobia 6/17/13 using a live menhaden!
2.5 lb. Pompano caught by Eric Kanipe on 5/28/13!
Jake's shot of a nice sheepshead caught by Ron McCauley on 5/26/13!
Mashallah with a nice black drum caught 5/23/13!
Addison Edwards' shot of a great Father-Son fishing trip!
Chris Hager's shot "Puffers Everywhere" 4/11/13
Wayne Nixon with one of many black drum he caught 10/29/12
Carol W. with a spot 10/15/12!
A nice mix of bottom fish caught 10/14/12!
Michael Lanier with a 20 lb. King caught 10/14/12!
Joey Kellum with a 25 lb. King caught 10/13/12!
Stacy Pleasant with a 37 lb. King caught 10/11/12!
Robbie Jordan with a 38 lb. King caught 10/11/12!
Brian Collins with a 44 lb. King caught 10/9/12!
Bradley and Austin Crossen with a 23 lb King caught 10/8/12!
Allen Smith with a 33 lb King caught 10/7/12 - Allen's first king!
Bennet "BT" Tolar landed this 30 lb. King on 10/6/12!
Mike Roten and Dale Pennington with a NICE pair of Kings (24 1/2 and 35 1/2 lbs.) caught 10/1/12!
35 1/2 lb. King caught by Dale Pennington 10/1/12!
Dean Phillips with a nice Spanish 9/25/12.
Guy Bianco with a 3 lb. pompano caught on a GotCha lure on 9/24/12.
Spanish caught by "Deep" on 9/13/12.
George Langston landing a blue 9/12/12.
Over the slot drum caught and released 9/10/12.
Nice drum prior to landing (see above) 9/10/12.
2 lb. 15 oz. Pompano caught by Randall Haro 9/10/12!.
Jackie Weathersby with a 32lb. King caught 9/7/12.
Steve Carlen with a big drum caught 9/7/12.
Chris Hagar with a NICE stack of sheepshead and black drum caught 8/8/12!
Hunter Moody with an 80 lb. Tarpon caught 7/27/12!
Michael Lanier with a BIG tarpon 7/6/12!
Harry Willard with a beautiful 26" puppy drum caught 6/29/12!
Bobby Joyce with a 4lb. 6 oz. flounder caught 6/25/12!
Tyler Rose with a 9 lb. chopper caught 6/22/12!
Here's Jake's photo of Alan Pleasants with 78" length, 42" girth tarpon he caught and released 6/15/12!
Here's Jake's photo of Doug Keicher with a 4lb black drum caught 5/29/12!
Here's Jake's photo of Willie Campbell with a 2 3/4 lb. Pompano caught 5/21/12!
Sam B. with a 4 lb. 8 oz. black drum he caught on 5/10/12!
Phillip Arrington with an 8.8 lb. chopper blue he caught on 4/30/12
Kevin Leary with a 20" Spanish caught 4/12.
Chris Hagar with an 8lb., 13 oz. Black Drum caught 4/17/12.
Here's Lisa H. with her first fish; wait a minute, it looks like two at a time!
Jackie with a nice speckled trout caught 11/9/11!
Nick Laws, Samantha Donley, Justin Donley, and Keith Laws with some nice speckled trout and blues caught 10/23/11.
Chris Hager says: "A bad day of flounder fishing turned into a good day of sheepshead fishing!" 10/6/11
Joseph V. with a nice drum he caught on 10/5-11 - his birthday!
Angelo “Deep” DePaola (below) caught and released this ~125 lb. tarpon on 9/20/11!
Deep fighting the Tarpon (above). For more about Deep, read “The Pier King” in the September/October issue of the Wildlife in NC Magazine.
George Langston with a nice speckled trout caught 9/19/11.
Kim with a nice pompano caught 9/21/11.
Here's Austin Piver with a nice 26" drum he caught on 9/17/11.
Earl Price with two nice pompano he caught Labor Day weekend.
Alan Pleasant with a 96 lb. Tarpon caught 8/4/11.
Brad Goodrich with a 26 lb. King caught 7/26/11.
Stacy Pleasant's 80 lb. Tarpon caught 7/23/11.
Bennett Tolar with a 6 lb. Spanish caught 7/22/11.
Colin Eimers' SECOND tarpon this season: 85 lbs. caught 7/20/11.
Chris Hager with a 26.5" red drum caught on 7/16/11.
Pat and Dustin Little with a 106 lb. Tarpon caught on 7/16/11.
Alex Padgett with a 7.5 lb. black drum caught on 7/11/11..
Colin Elmers with a 75 lb. tarpon caught on 7/6/11.
David Sugrue with an 83 lb.tarpon caught on 7/4/11.
Colin Elmers with a 19 lb. King Mackerel caught on 7/1/11.
Chris Hager with a 6.5 lb. Black Drum; look at the Shark bites!
Mike Stout's 17 lb. King Mackerel
Ray McNeely with a 31 lb. King Mackerel caught on 6/23/11.
Chris Hager with a 10 lb. 7 oz. Sheepshead caught on 6/22/11.
15-year old Alan Pleasant with an 83 lb. Tarpon he caught and released on 6/17/11 after a 2-hour fight!
Lyn Joyner with a 15 1/2 lb. Cobia caught on 6/15/11.
Stephanie Henly caught these 3 flounder on 6/12/11.
Marvin Campbell with a 4 lb. 13 oz. Spanish he caught 5/30/11 on a GotCha lure!
Howard Hill with a 10 lb. 14 0z. black drum caught 5/22/11.
Tyler Smith caught this 14 lb. 2 oz. chopper blue on 5/19/11.
Derrick Vaughn with a 6 lb. drum caught 5/15/11.
Hugh Hunter with a chopper blue caught 5/11/11.
This Dolphin was feeding on blues beside the pier this week.
Chopper blue caught on 5/5/11.
Emma L. catching blues on 4/20/11.
VA mullet coming to the rail 4/18/11 by Donald West.
Jim Tsioumos caught this 24" puppy drum on 4/17/11.
This pelican was fishing so close to shore that he rode a wave to the beach!
Allison Edwards' shot of a NE Greensboro intersection.
This Great Blue Heron was checking out the fishing action on the pier this morning - it was pretty slow for him too! Not much to report this week - a few Shad were caught earlier in the week. 1/6/11
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Spots & drum at night; blues, flounder, and a few Spanish early and late for the past several days. Bait is still plentiful. Check out our fall room rates & call us for your September & October reservations. - Robin Orr
We caught nice slot-sized puppy drum, blues, VA mullet, and spots yesterday. The water is clear today, with light WSW wind. Lots of mullet still going by the pier. We have great weather forecast for Labor Day weekend and we have rooms available for you! - Robin Orr
LOTS of jumping mullet are streaming by the Pier, with blues feeding on them now. Look for kings and Spanish as the water clears a bit. We have had black drum, VA mullet, croakers, puppy drum, and some spots all in the mix this week. We have low-summer room rates through 8/28/14, and openings for Labor Day Weekend - Robin Orr
The wind is NE, and forecast to remain there for several days, which should be good for fishing this week! We caught Spots, Spanish, and blues last night and this morning. Look for more spots and baitfish to show up, and larger fish feeding on them as well. Check out our low-summer room rates through 8/28/14. Thanks! - Robin Orr
The summer weather continues through the weekend, with a cooling trend early next week. The breeze is light from the west this morning, and due to change to the NE tomorrow. We've had good catches of spots this week, and some blues and Spanish as well. Check out our low-summer room rates through 8/28/14. Thanks! - Robin Orr
The sunny, warm, beach weather continues this week, with calm conditions in the morning, and afternoon sea breezes. Spots, blues, and flounder were caught over the weekend. Check out our low summer rates from now through 8/28/14! - Robin Orr
This morning the wind is calm, due to go SSW later in the day; the seas are FLAT calm, with clear, green water! Great forecast thru the weekend and into next week. Lots of jumping mullet are still around the pier. Spanish and blues were in the mix yesterday. We've caught spots every day this week, along with some drum & flounder. Check out our low-rate period from 8/17-8/28/14! - Robin Orr
Even with the water cloudy from the rain last week, we still had some blues and Spanish caught over the past several days. Last night there were good numbers of keeper (over 14 inches) black drum. Check out our great weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
After the weekend "showers", the sun looks good today! Some nice black drum and puppy drum were caught over the weekend, along with some spots. The larger jumping mullet are showing up already - pushed out of the inside waters by the combination of NE wind, full moon, and fresh water from last week's rain. BT put one out for bait, & promptly jumped off a tarpon! Check out our great weekday room rates at www.thejollyroger.com & call us at 1-800-633-3196. Thanks! - Robin Orr
There have been some large (doormat!) flounder hooked and lost this week, and we are seeing more keeper size in the mix now. Good numbers of black drum, and some large puppy drum. Surprisingly, we had some blues caught as well. With the wind going NE now, look for the spots to return! Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Sunshine, blue skies, and good waves! After a week of rain, it's looking good today! Spots, mullet & drum were the mix last night. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
We've had some good fishing between the showers for the past several days, with keeper sized flounder, over the slot sized puppy drum, and good numbers of spots! Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Clear skies, NE wind, green water, mid 80's today. Spots, Spanish, and some black drum yesterday and today! Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
The hot weather continues thru today, and should moderate somewhat beginning tomorrow. SSW winds this morning. Spots, mullet, & some trout last night. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Black drum, flounder, spots and some croakers have been caught mostly at night for the past several days. LOTS of schools of menhaden streaming by yesterday - there should be some big fish tracking them. We have rooms open this weekend, including some one-night openings tonight! - Robin Orr
This weekend, we caught a nice 4 1/2 lb. black drum plus spots, mullet and croakers at night, along with some flounder, trout, and pompano during the day. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
NE wind at about 12 mph, clear water, and blue skies this morning. Spots should hit again tonight with this wind! We are seeing trout, flounder, and some nice pompano during the daytime. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
We are seeing some nice speckled trout every day now, along with some good sized Virginia mullet. Flounder are being caught, but most are less than keeper size. There should be some action on the end of the pier before dark! Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
This weekend, we had some excitement on the end of the pier with multiple tarpon strikes. Closer to shore, we caught some nice slot-sized puppy drum, pompano, and speckled trout. Spanish returned late in the evening, and we had a run of blues one afternoon as well. This morning we caught flounder and puppy drum. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Fishing has been slow for the past several days, with better catches at night (when it is cooler) of mullet, spots, croakers, and a few drum and trout. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
We caught some nice drum, trout, and Spanish over the weekend, and the menhaden arrived yesterday. Tarpon are still around as well. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Spanish and blues along with some false albacore were caught this morning, and spots, mullet, and croakers last night. We have a few rooms open over the next few days; please call now! - Robin Orr
Lots of spots again last night, along with mullet & croakers. The wind is light this morning, and forecast to go SE. The water is green & clear, and there are Spanish jumping all around the pier now - should be a good day! Check out our non-holiday weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Croakers and a few spots caught last night. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
This morning we caught some blues, a few Spanish, and some black drum. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Spanish are still being caught early and late in the day, some keeper flounder mid day, and spots, mullet, and croakers at night. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Some Spanish & blues late yesterday, along with a few speckled trout! Spots, mullet, & croakers after dark. Several keeper flounder in the mix as well. It's been hot, but forecast to cool down a bit over the next few days. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Mixed bag on the fishing, with some drum, flounder, Spanish & a few speckled trout during the day, and mullet, croakers, and spots at night. There are still some cobia around, although getting one on the deck seems to be challenging! - Robin Orr
We had a good mix over the weekend - black drum in the 6 to 7 lb. class, spots, mullet, croakers, & some Spanish. We saw the first Tarpon strikes of the year as well! False albacore were in the mix on Saturday. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Fishing has been mixed for the past several days, with scattered Spanish early and late, and spots, mullet, and croakers after dark. We have rooms available this weekend, and lower rates on non-holiday weekdays. - Robin Orr
Some 10 lb. class chopper blues, as well as a few Spanish over the past several days. Still some Spots, mullet, and croakers at night. Check out our weekday room rates! - Robin Orr
Spots were in the mix again over the weekend, along with flounder, croakers, and mullet. Several bigger fish lost from the end of the pier! Check out our weekday room rates!
We had high winds from the SW yesterday, & fishing was blown out by mid afternoon, but the wind has switched to the ENE this morning. We caught Spots last week in the same conditions as those forecast for this weekend, so we're expecting to see them hit again soon! - Robin Orr
Fishing has produced a mix of mullet, croakers, and drum at night, and some flounder, Spanish, and blues during the day for the past several days. - Robin Orr
With the wind NE to E over the past several days, we've had Spots hitting both day and night, along with croakers and mullet. There are still some Spanish and blues around, although not as thick as last week's action. A couple of large Cobia were lost at the pier. - Robin Orr
This morning we have seen several drum caught already, along with more blues. The wind is SSW at about 12 now, with bright sunshine, and the water temp is in the low 70's. - Robin Orr
Great runs of Blues continue, with Spanish mixed in. Lots of bait - mostly glass minnows. Mullet and a few croakers and drum at night. The water temp is right at 70 degrees now. The weather forecast is for showers/thundershowers Thursday night and possibly Friday morning, then clearing for a nice weekend! - Robin Orr
We're getting blues on every cast, some nice-sized Virginia mullet, and some Spanish. The conditions are right for another good day today! - Robin Orr
We're getting blues on every cast on Got Cha lures! Yesterday, Joe Bianco caught the first Spanish of the season, also on a Got Cha lure. We've also had nice 2-lb. pompano for the last couple of days. - Robin Orr
GREAT forecast: Clear water, winds from the south, temps in the 70's thru the weekend. AND, the Blues are here! Started catching them on Got Cha lures yesterday, and more this morning. Last night there were VA mullet, croakers, and some puffers caught. - Robin Orr
Good sized VA mullet last night, along with some blues and a few keeper flounder. We're having GREAT weather, with a good forecast for the remainder of the week! - Robin Orr
Fishing continues to improve, with good catches of VA mullet, puffers, and a few blues. - Robin Orr
We are on the warming side of the cold front now, with nice weather forecast thru the weekend. Speckled trout are here now, along with black drum, some nice VA mullet, blues, and a few puffers. - Robin Orr
We had beautiful weather and slower fishing Saturday, with black drum and pompano caught in good numbers, a few spots, and scattered puppy drum and mullet. Good sized VA mullet hit last night. The wind is NNE this morning, which should pick things up today. Colder weather is on the way mid week, and then back in the 70's for the weekend! - Robin Orr
Yesterday we had spots, VA mullet, speckled trout, and puppy drum in good numbers, and nice mullet last night. The action has been better in the afternoon for the past several days. The wind is North at 15-20, and it is much cooler today, with clear weather forecast for the weekend! - Robin Orr
Robin's Sunrise Shot & Report: Good runs of SPOTS yesterday and last night, with puppy drum, VA mullet, and some blues mixed in. Good fishing conditions today as well, with NE wind at about 15 mph this morning. Sunny skies forecast for this weekend! - Robin Orr
Good runs of SPOTS last night! Nice sized VA mullet, puppy drum, and black drum as well. The rain has stopped, and we should have great weather for the remainder of the weekend. - Robin Orr
Nice sized VA mullet showed up last night, hitting on shrimp and bloodworms. We continue to see slot-size puppy drum, along with black drum, flounder, pompano, and blues. Scattered spots mixed in. - Robin Orr
GORGEOUS weather at the beach! We had a few mullet and puppy drum yesterday and a good run of blues in the afternoon. - Robbie Jordan
The wind finally came around to the East yesterday afternoon, and we had good action last night on some really pretty puppy drum in the 23-27 inch class, along with some good keeper flounder and VA mullet. This morning the wind is light and variable, with calm seas. The forecast is for winds ENE for the next several days, with highs in the 70's - great Fall weather! - Robin Orr
Yesterday was a beautiful, cool Fall day, with calm conditions, clear water, and a NW wind. Unfortunately, the fishing was slow, with a few Spanish, pompano, drum, and mullet caught. The puppy drum are good-sized slot drum, and there are some black drum also. This morning the wind has switched to the North, and there is a good chop on the water, and it looks better for fishing. We've seen a few pompano, mullet, and spots so far this morning and Helen Coats caught one slot-sized puppy drum. There's lots of bait around still, and with the cold nights forecast, we should see the speckled trout show up soon. - Robin Orr
We caught Puppy drum, mullet, and pompano yesterday and this morning. Cooler (fishing!) weather is on the way for the weekend! - Robin Orr
We had a good fishing day yesterday, with a lot of nice sized VA mullet caught in the morning, Spanish, blues, and albacore mid morning, and bigger pompano later in the day. B.T. caught his king already this morning. The wind is NE at 10 mph, and it's cool outside; perfect fishing weather! - Robin Orr
We are catching some very nice VA mullet this morning - bloodworms are the ticket! - Robin Orr
Good Fall fishing, with lots of Blues on GotCha lures, plenty of pompano, and good numbers of both black and puppy drum. Spots and VA mullet have been hitting on the rising tide. More keeper flounder this week, and one King caught so far. - Robin Orr
LOTS of big , fat, BLUES for the past several days, mostly hitting GotCha lures, early and late in the day. Mid-day and afternoons we have seen good numbers of pompano, and mixed spots, mullet, and both puppy drum and black drum. More spots, mullet, and drum at night. - Robin Orr
There were good numbers of black drum in the 5 lb. class caught yesterday. This morning we have clear water, lots of bait fish, and plenty of blues hitting on GotCha lures, along with some speckled trout, flounder, and puppy drum. - Robin Orr
We caught spots, pompano, puppy drum, blues, and Spanish this morning. Yesterday we had spots, mullet, pompano, and some black drum. Lots of bait fish in the water. After several days of very rough weather, the ocean is calming with a good NW breeze this morning, and the wet weather is moving out of our area. - Robin Orr
We had another good run of Spanish late yesterday afternoon, and some nice slot-sized puppy drum last night. Bait fish were thick yesterday, with lots of red minnows and shiners. Pompano are showing up now, and most are around a pound and a half. This morning we've seen some blues, Spanish, flounder and drum so far. Conditions are light winds and clear water, with water temp in the mid-70's and air temp going to around 80 today. - Robin Orr
Great runs of Spanish yesterday, with many folks limiting out! GotCha lures and diamond jigs were the hot baits. There were also some very nice speckled trout, puppy drum, and flounder landed. On Saturday afternoon we saw some of the largest Spots yet this season, as well as a number of pompano. Good Fall fishing and great weather this week! - Robin Orr
Chris Boyles: Just got back from there, Had two hits on my King rig, caught a ton of bluefish and some nice Spanish on gotcha lures, with the blue head and white body the main preference, my son and his friends caught some mullet, blues and a few nice pompano...
Lucille Wyatt Duggins: just got back from there, I loved the fishing, blues & Spanish did it again, lol WORE US OUT
Spots and mullet bit last night; spots are getting bigger and more plentiful daily. Yesterday we had LOTS of flounder caught; many were under sized, but there were some nice keepers (15 inch minimum) caught as well. Spanish and blues hit early and late in the day; mid day was slow. There are still a lot of false albacore around, and bait is plentiful. Speckled trout showed up in good numbers this week - about a month earlier than normal! There should be some kings caught soon. The wind is NNE at 12-15 this morning, and is forecast to stay NE thru the weekend, with sunny skies - GREAT fishing weather! - Robin Orr
The ocean is Alive with bait fish this morning! Mullet, red minnows, shiners, ballyhoo - all from the surf zone out past the end of the pier. Spanish, blues, and false albacore are feeding on them, and being caught on GotCha lures. Yesterday we had a school of speckled trout under the pier; a good number of them in the 2 lb size and one 5-pounder were caught on live shrimp. Last night we caught spots and VA mullet. The wind is ENE at about 7 mph this morning, and the weather is perfect! - Robin Orr
After a damp, misty day yesterday, the weather has cleared, and we have clear, cooler conditions today, with winds out of the NE around 15. Once again the ocean is alive with jumping mullet streaming down the beach, with schools of blues and false albacore feeding on them. Some spots and mullet were caught over night, along with some black drum in the 5-6 lb class. The wind is forecast to remain NE for the next several days, which should be great for fishing! - Robin Orr
The mullet have been streaming by nonstop for the past several days, with Spanish and big, fat, Fall blues working on them. This morning a school of Tarpon just past the surf was migrating south with the mullet. Today there are LOTS of big blues being caught on GotCha lures and cut bait. Good numbers of slot sized puppy drum caught yesterday afternoon, along with black drum. Weighed in a 4 3/4 lb Spanish caught on live bait. Night time action has been good for spots, VA mullet, and black drum. A few pompano and flounder in the mix this week. - Robin Orr
Fishing continues to improve this week, with spots, mullet, flounder, and blues in good numbers, and some black drum as well. Perfect weather conditions, with NE winds about 15 mph today, a full moon coming on, and cooler temps. The water temp is 75 degrees this morning. - Robin Orr
Great weather and good fishing over the weekend, with bigger Spots, VA mullet, fat Fall Blues, Spanish, and flounder - just good fishing all over! Lots of bait fish in the water still, and schools of blues, Spanish and Ladyfish are all over them. The wind is forecast to go back to the NE tonight thru the next several days, which should help maintain the action! - Robin Orr
Great action for Blues this morning on GotCha lures, along with a few Spanish. Lots of bait in the water now. Spots and mullet hit last night. Cooler weather is on the way this weekend, which looks good for fishing in general. - Robin Orr
Fishing has been more productive after dark, with spots, mullet, and black drum being caught. There are good numbers of bait fish in the water now, so look for the Spanish, blues, and Kings to show up with the clear conditions. Flounder have been increasing in number and size this week. - Robin Orr
Good numbers of big Spots last night, as well as VA mullet, puppy drum, and black drum. The wind is NNE this morning at about 12 mph, and conditions are good for fishing! - Robin Orr
Spots hit again yesterday morning, and are hitting this morning as well. There are some nice sized Pompano showing up now, along w